@jenius : as i have thaicom 5 on offset (side lnb) some tps are missing, so i am not getting starlite and many channels... I am waiting till rains (monsoon) to stop, afterwards i will leave Insat 4A and will make only Thaicom 5 78.5 deg E on prime (main lnb), which also gives me signal of Apstar 7 (former Apstar 2R) also on 76.5 deg E