Breaking NTO 2.0 To Be Implemented From 1st February 2023

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We have discussed this topic expensively on the forum. So I think I know what I'm talking about. 33% cap was NTO 2.0 not 1.0. In 1.0, it was 15%. The 15% cap rule was removed by Madras High Court. And SC ruling after that was not clear to TRAI, and they have mistakenly understood that SC upheld the madras HC ruling in it's entirety, rather than the NTO 1.0 as a whole. When they went back to SC for clarification, they were scolded by the court. So all the broadcasters released the bouquets without any discount cap and TRAI couldn't do anything about it. That's why all the current bouquets are so cheap. Now with NTO 2.0, that is also gone. With no reduction in MRP the NTO 2.0 would just make things costlier for the viewers and that's what has happened here. You can read the NTO 2.0 order itself which clearly mentions all this.

There is a capping in bouquet in currenr rules which r applicable and same is the 1st part of twin condition which states "sum of a-la-carte prices of channels which r included in bouquet cannot be one and a half times more than price of concerned bouquet.

15% bouquet price cap rule was struck down by the honorable court long back during initial implementation of first version of NTO....later amendments brought many new changes including the one condition i mentioned and the other about "a-la-carte price of a channel included in a bouquet cannot be two and half times more than average price of channels included in bouquet " which was cancelled by Bombay High Court.

Thereafter broadcasters launched updates RIO complying with 1st part of twin condition. This happened in mid 2020. You can even check pricing of bouquet and sum of standalone channels included in it, u will notice the discount pattern i had mentioned. Had that nor been the case then broadcasters would have inflated standalone price of channels long back like they have did so in Latest NTO 2.0 RIO.

Latest NTO rules amendments earlier in 2021 made it mandatory for broadcasters to keep channel price cap at Rs. 12 for them to be included in bouquet as TRAI had noticed that due to absence of 2nd twin condition broadcasters were still inflating price of key driver channels and giving them at high discounts in bouquet. Now this change has been reversed and bouquet discount cap has been increased to 45% hence u r seeing inflated standalone prices of many channels gaining prominence while bouquet discount have gone up
 
Sony Happy India Pack 31, Channels total MRP 63, pack price 31, discount 50.79%
Star SPP Hd Marathi pack, Channels total MRP 239.10, pack price 120, discount 49.83%

Few examples, stating that there isn't a cap on pack discounts, there was a 15% discount set by TRAI on bouquets, it was set aside by Madras High Court.


You r quoting prices of bouquet when first NTO rules were applicable and obviously at that time there was no discount capping applicable on bouquet. Same was brought about later. Quote me such example from currently in effect bouquets
 
You r quoting prices of bouquet when first NTO rules were applicable and obviously at that time there was no discount capping applicable on bouquet. Same was brought about later. Quote me such example from currently in effect bouquets
Are you sure there was another amendment after this?, I'm sure there wasn't a one that has been implemented since, Atleast I'm using the same price packaging.

You can surf through DPO websites for broadcast packs and find what is provided now, else please attach a RIO that is active on a DPO and that is providing a cap of 33% as you're saying.

P.S. The Rs.12 cap for channels to be in a bouquet, if that's what you're talking about, it was never implemented.






 
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This is the another step they are forcing the customers to go toward OTT.

Cancel NTO 1.0 also. We want all channels in 150 to 200 Rs. or atmost 250 Rs. We will be happy if broadcasters or Dth will force us to watch unwanted channels in low price as compared to now (selected channels at high price)
why TRAI care about unwanted channels?, is any consumer complain to them for having unwanted channels? most unwanted channels are from doordarshan ( prasar Bharati), I think TRAI sold to OTT platforms and telecom operators🤢, always south indian customers are at receiving end, nto 2.0 will make cable/ dth cost ₹500pm🤦
 
There is a capping in bouquet in currenr rules which r applicable and same is the 1st part of twin condition which states "sum of a-la-carte prices of channels which r included in bouquet cannot be one and a half times more than price of concerned bouquet.

15% bouquet price cap rule was struck down by the honorable court long back during initial implementation of first version of NTO....later amendments brought many new changes including the one condition i mentioned and the other about "a-la-carte price of a channel included in a bouquet cannot be two and half times more than average price of channels included in bouquet " which was cancelled by Bombay High Court.

Thereafter broadcasters launched updates RIO complying with 1st part of twin condition. This happened in mid 2020. You can even check pricing of bouquet and sum of standalone channels included in it, u will notice the discount pattern i had mentioned. Had that nor been the case then broadcasters would have inflated standalone price of channels long back like they have did so in Latest NTO 2.0 RIO.

Latest NTO rules amendments earlier in 2021 made it mandatory for broadcasters to keep channel price cap at Rs. 12 for them to be included in bouquet as TRAI had noticed that due to absence of 2nd twin condition broadcasters were still inflating price of key driver channels and giving them at high discounts in bouquet. Now this change has been reversed and bouquet discount cap has been increased to 45% hence u r seeing inflated standalone prices of many channels gaining prominence while bouquet discount have gone up
You still don't understand. The regulation that is currently in place for consumers, is NTO 1.0, i.e., without any discount capping on the bouquets. NTO 2.0 had never come into the DPO hands due to various reasons which have been extensively discussed. The RIO that were published post Bombay high court judgement and SC appeal by the broadcasters (No stay from SC) had huge al-a-carte pricing. After this, Broadcasters and TRAI had an agreement to discuss this amicably, which was why the broadcasters withdrew the SC appeal and the published RIO (With huge al-a-carte MRPs) have been put on hold. Now, after the consultation process, NTO 2.0 had again been amended with a max MRP of 19 for any channel to be in a bouquet and the discount capping had been increased to 45%, which is toothless. Because, even in NTO 1.0 (The current one which is at consumer's disposal), the bouquet discounts were at 50-55% anyway and this ruling just making things costlier. Revised NTO 2.0 will be in effect starting Feb 1st. The said 33% discount packages have never seen the light at consumer homes, as they have never been released to the DPOs. Hope this makes it clear.
 
why TRAI care about unwanted channels?, is any consumer complain to them for having unwanted channels? most unwanted channels are from doordarshan ( prasar Bharati), I think TRAI sold to OTT platforms and telecom operators🤢, always south indian customers are at receiving end, nto 2.0 will make cable/ dth cost ₹500pm🤦
If you have broadband connection, then it will be good time for scrapping TV connection and take OTT subs/add on.
 
If you have broadband connection, then it will be good time for scrapping TV connection and take OTT subs/add on.
If we want to duplicate live tv through ott than it is not user friendly... And one more thing...
SonyLiv, zee5, Hotstar doesn't provide good monthly packs... Simply we need to subscribe for an year....
Where in dth we can even subscribe for a day....
OTT is not cheap in India.... Ofcourse, when compared to western countries it is cheap.... But same case with dth.... Even, nto 2.0 leads to price increase than also it is cheap when compared to ott because we don't need to commit for anything for an year or not even a month.. In dth...
And, one more thing sports quality is not good as compared to dth in ott...
Still, dth and cable TV has many advantages when compared to ott in India....
I don't think there is no chance of huge cord cutting disruption in India if broadcasters are interested to do so..
But big broadcasters have advantages with ott like they are directly selling the app so commission for dth operators... And all...
But even if people start opting for ott... People will surely feel the irritation of multiple payments and multiple subscriptions... The same thing is happening in USA...

So, my suggestion please check everything and try all apps u need to watch your content than only cut the cord don't hurry... It is not that good.. The hype is just temporary, people will surely love try new things.. But end of the day comfort is matter....
 
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